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THUNDERBOLT 
dU.Mapper
UT Name: THUNDERBOLT UT Since: 1997 Gender: 
Joined: Jul 22, 2010
Age: 45
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 Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 8:53 pm
Post subject: [PR0]-Flash> Who is? |
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have created this thread because I would like to make public my conversation with this player [PR0] -Flash>, also called AngelOfVerdun, [Alpine], and Whiz, where it is seen that he has a problem with dU and / or with me, I really don't know who he is, but it was noticed that his mind is very focused on seeing what others do or what they say or think, that logically is not good, I have not been in contact with anyone for a long time, I have been living a more leisurely life for years ( simply because of an unfavorable state of health) and it is the second time that I have just entered the server and someone begins to attack me with words or subtlety that I do not understand where they come from since I do not have enemies of any kind, but I am very clear that the Jealousy of other people can be very dangerous. so here I share the full chat of two maps played today.
CHAT from MH-(dU)Pharaoh2011VFinal: MatchID: 282169
2021-11-26 16:13.14 [PR0]-Flash>: this is not original map
2021-11-26 16:13.26 [PR0]-Flash>: this is a copy of Pharaoh from 2007
2021-11-26 16:13.34 THUNDERBOLT: ???
2021-11-26 16:13.39 THUNDERBOLT: WHAT u mean?
2021-11-26 16:13.44 [PR0]-Flash>: it is a stolen map in more words
2021-11-26 16:13.44 THUNDERBOLT: what copy?
2021-11-26 16:14.00 [PR0]-Flash>: a copy as in remade & changed slightly
2021-11-26 16:14.00 THUNDERBOLT: im the mapper of this map and this server?
2021-11-26 16:14.19 [PR0]-Flash>: are you then why does this look identical to Pharaoh 2007?
2021-11-26 16:14.37 THUNDERBOLT: ?????? what pharaoh 2007? from where
2021-11-26 16:14.39 [PR0]-Flash>: like pHARAOH cURSE IS A COPY TOO
2021-11-26 16:14.53 [PR0]-Flash>: FROM UT99
2021-11-26 16:15.03 [PR0]-Flash>: SOMEONE ELSE MADE A pHARAOH MAP
2021-11-26 16:15.20 [PR0]-Flash>: he complained about others taking his work
2021-11-26 16:15.34 [PR0]-Flash>: MHA pharaoh is stolen work too
2021-11-26 16:15.37 THUNDERBOLT: i did all alone, no copys and textures and meshes are from me
2021-11-26 16:15.43 THUNDERBOLT: i did mha maps lol
2021-11-26 16:15.56 [PR0]-Flash>: then why are you stealing other mappers work?
2021-11-26 16:15.58 THUNDERBOLT: what copys lol, dont talk idiot things here
2021-11-26 16:16.12 [PR0]-Flash>: i play the original maps on another server
2021-11-26 16:16.22 [PR0]-Flash>: pharaoh curse made in 2012
2021-11-26 16:16.25 THUNDERBOLT: i was mha mapper there
2021-11-26 16:17.00 [PR0]-Flash>: it wierd how 2 maps looks the same but no one copied
2021-11-26 16:17.27 THUNDERBOLT: no there is 1 noob mapper from omg , he used my decorations
2021-11-26 16:17.44 [PR0]-Flash>: these decoration are nothing like originals
2021-11-26 16:17.52 THUNDERBOLT: ohh god
2021-11-26 16:18.06 [PR0]-Flash>: pharaoh was based on tomb raider
2021-11-26 16:18.31 [PR0]-Flash>: so who is TBM?
2021-11-26 16:18.45 THUNDERBOLT: you mean temple of pharaoh?
2021-11-26 16:18.47 [PR0]-Flash>: he does alot of copying
2021-11-26 16:19.01 THUNDERBOLT: TBM Is from MHA
2021-11-26 16:19.03 [PR0]-Flash>: no it is called Pharaoh curse but not sure what copy is called
2021-11-26 16:19.14 [PR0]-Flash>: yeah i know he from MHa
2021-11-26 16:19.23 [PR0]-Flash>: 16 year old kid steals work
2021-11-26 16:19.35 THUNDERBOLT: but he is very young
2021-11-26 16:19.48 THUNDERBOLT: i was in MHA 2010
2021-11-26 16:19.48 [PR0]-Flash>: yeah i know he stole loads other mappers work
2021-11-26 16:21.35 [PR0]-Flash>: you should see the originals then see others
2021-11-26 16:21.53 THUNDERBOLT: i dont see another maps
2021-11-26 16:22.01 THUNDERBOLT: i make my maps from my mind
2021-11-26 16:22.30 [PR0]-Flash>: ok say you do, then pharaoh curse is defiantly copied
2021-11-26 16:22.56 THUNDERBOLT: from what year is that map
2021-11-26 16:23.01 [PR0]-Flash>: 2012
2021-11-26 16:23.13 [PR0]-Flash>: they name 1 copy curse pharaoh
2021-11-26 16:23.16 THUNDERBOLT: i dont know , this map is from 2011
2021-11-26 16:23.58 [PR0]-Flash>: 1 pharaoh map was from 2007 just called pharaoh
2021-11-26 16:24.15 THUNDERBOLT: there are many with these name
2021-11-26 16:24.35 THUNDERBOLT: pharaoh cursed, no sound in my memory
2021-11-26 16:24.46 [PR0]-Flash>: well MHA copied the map
2021-11-26 16:24.52 the_bulk: weird mode lol
2021-11-26 16:24.52 [PR0]-Flash>: i saw the copt once
2021-11-26 16:25.06 THUNDERBOLT: but i know of 1 guy who stolem my work from this map
2021-11-26 16:25.21 [PR0]-Flash>: loads steal work & it is out of order
2021-11-26 16:37.14 [PR0]-Flash>: too much shake it worse than NW3
2021-11-26 16:39.54 [PR0]-Flash>: not normal projectiles for pawns
2021-11-26 16:40.15 THUNDERBOLT: are from destination unreal pawn
2021-11-26 16:40.30 THUNDERBOLT: try enjoy , is only 1 game
2021-11-26 16:40.31 [PR0]-Flash>: well they not original
2021-11-26 16:40.37 THUNDERBOLT: you are very negative
2021-11-26 16:41.06 THUNDERBOLT: put music
2021-11-26 16:41.54 [PR0]-Flash>: i not like naliweapons 3 but this not much different
2021-11-26 16:42.29 THUNDERBOLT: naliweapons 3 have pure nuclear guns
2021-11-26 16:42.41 THUNDERBOLT: u must to go destination crazy server
2021-11-26 16:42.44 [PR0]-Flash>: they have big shake like here
2021-11-26 16:42.56 THUNDERBOLT: shake? what is that
2021-11-26 16:43.08 [PR0]-Flash>: screen shakes and turns
2021-11-26 16:43.13 EEE_PC*: hi
2021-11-26 16:43.20 THUNDERBOLT: i rhink u are very negative
2021-11-26 16:43.28 THUNDERBOLT: u need ear song
2021-11-26 16:43.38 THUNDERBOLT: music calm mind
2021-11-26 16:43.48 [PR0]-Flash>: my screen shakes too much like NW3
2021-11-26 16:47.29 THUNDERBOLT: EYY EEE this is not 1 racer
2021-11-26 16:49.07 EEE_PC*: lags 
2021-11-26 16:51.42 [PR0]-Flash>: 6 mappers i know of you not got none of their maps here
Chat from MH-DarkWhite MatchID 282170
2021-11-26 16:52.51 THUNDERBOLT: From what country are u?
2021-11-26 16:53.00 [PR0]-Flash>: me uk
2021-11-26 16:53.09 EEE_PC*: fr
2021-11-26 16:53.27 [PR0]-Flash>: Alpine is said worlds best mapper for MH
2021-11-26 16:53.34 [PR0]-Flash>: you not got 1 of his maps
2021-11-26 16:53.37 EEE_PC*: lags !!
2021-11-26 16:54.03 THUNDERBOLT: you need to clear your mind men, really
2021-11-26 16:54.35 [PR0]-Flash>: my mind is clear i am not one living a lie
2021-11-26 16:54.51 [PR0]-Flash>: players need to open their eyes stop living a lie
2021-11-26 16:55.43 THUNDERBOLT: no your mind is not clear, u are only watching what do the rest
2021-11-26 16:56.20 [PR0]-Flash>: i hear what people on discord say how good DU is & its facts
2021-11-26 16:56.35 [PR0]-Flash>: they say no mapper is better than DU maps
2021-11-26 16:56.43 [PR0]-Flash>: that is such a lie
2021-11-26 16:56.53 THUNDERBOLT: i dont care what say the ppl lol are u crazy ahhaha
2021-11-26 16:57.12 [PR0]-Flash>: you all believe it so you trapped in your world of belief
2021-11-26 16:57.30 [PR0]-Flash>: juust like you think no server is better than DU
2021-11-26 16:57.40 THUNDERBOLT: ??? men relax i dont care what u think of me
2021-11-26 16:57.50 THUNDERBOLT: you talk bad of you self
2021-11-26 16:58.09 THUNDERBOLT: i think u are very young
2021-11-26 16:58.20 [PR0]-Flash>: no i am older than you think
2021-11-26 16:58.33 [PR0]-Flash>: i am nearly 40
2021-11-26 16:58.57 THUNDERBOLT: impossible with that mind
2021-11-26 16:59.16 [PR0]-Flash>: just because i stand up for other people
2021-11-26 16:59.26 Neto: my reaper dont lik me
2021-11-26 16:59.29 [PR0]-Flash>: i am not one slagging down other players your server are
2021-11-26 16:59.51 THUNDERBOLT: my waht?
2021-11-26 17:00.00 Neto: gun
2021-11-26 17:00.10 THUNDERBOLT: my server?, is not my server |
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EmperorHunter 
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UT Name: Emperor_Warrior UT Since: 2001 Gender:
Joined: May 21, 2012
Age: 33
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Location: Somewhere in California
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:16 pm
Post subject: Re: [PR0]-Flash> Who is? |
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| Hey I believe you thunderbolt you made those maps your a great mapper I think pro flash is trying to discredit you and is trying to frame you for something you didn't commit if this continues Thunderbolt I will deal with Pro flash or angelofverdun or whiz for you either ban or give a stern lecture. |
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foffy 
UT Name: foffy UT Since: 2017 Gender: 
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:03 pm
Post subject: Re: [PR0]-Flash> Who is? |
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How to explane who is when he have 78458945394868506 names 
I think before here was famous as Boss_Salt ,BlackDragon or smth.Other names r Jinx,Remidas,Torus [last two use for mapping also] .. and maaaaaaaaaaany others.Go to servers,make bs,go in discords-make more. Dont give him attention ,all he do is provoke in purpose and after call ppl racists for no reason Last names he used were pro flash and psychoizzi or smth.  |
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Karlthegreat 
UT Name: Karlthegreat UT Since: 1999 Gender:
Joined: Aug 29, 2017
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:51 am
Post subject: Re: [PR0]-Flash> Who is? |
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2021-11-26 16:47.29 THUNDERBOLT: EYY EEE this is not 1 racer
That's the only funny line in that convo.
As for the Flash guy... please don't take him serious. He's a highly schizoprenic guy and has been here under many other names, Boss_Salt and BlackDragon indeed being some of them. He's had at least a dozen of names here sometimes within days. Also rambled on the discord server about someone ruining his life or whatever.
And in the past he made fake screenshots of me wishing for his daughter to be bombed and other stuff. He deleted that discord account again, but the fakes are still there because the discord server is not moderated.
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EvilGrins
UT Name: Doppleganger UT Since: 1999 Gender:
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Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:45 pm
Post subject: Re: [PR0]-Flash> Who is? |
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I kinda sorta know who this probably is, he's been posting in a facebook UT group lately and I've been chatting him up. He claims a lot of his work was stolen by other mappers, and he REALLY doesn't like Thunderbolt.
I asked to check his stuff...
...and have been going over it.
I don't see much similarity, so far, between his maps and those he's accusing... if this is the same person I'm thinking of. |
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THUNDERBOLT
dU.Mapper
UT Name: THUNDERBOLT UT Since: 1997 Gender:
Joined: Jul 22, 2010
Age: 45
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:44 pm
Post subject: Re: [PR0]-Flash> Who is? |
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I was talking with some admins from other servers, the problem is not only with me, he insult the mostly maps and mappers, the problem is that he claims that none of the admins bothered to put a single map of him on their servers, I do not know him, and seen his facebook, But I don't even know who he is, I know he's very jealous and that makes him dangerous, he made a video on YouTube saying that I stole his work, the video shows one of his maps, he's really crazy, the map is very square, there is nothing similar in mine, but not only that, he made an error in the video, as soon as it began I noticed that there was a map with my nickname and I searched it in google, and it was uploaded this month, I have not uploaded maps, and until next year I don't think I will do mapping. He is inventing maps saying that I have made them to prove that he is only lying because he is a machine to invent lies, I know that there are crazy people in the world, but I don't know where he came from or why he just fell to me. He now is playing  with the Nick Kyro_Blink or Ms.Rossi
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Karlthegreat
UT Name: Karlthegreat UT Since: 1999 Gender:
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Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2021 8:32 pm
Post subject: Re: [PR0]-Flash> Who is? |
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| I just got a flurry of wild accusations (like child rapist and threatening to bomb his daughter, which he had doctored screenshots for). He's definitely escaped not on the meds he needs to be. |
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EvilGrins
UT Name: Doppleganger UT Since: 1999 Gender:
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Age: 53
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Location: Palo Alto, CA
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 9:10 pm
Post subject: Re: [PR0]-Flash> Who is? |
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So... this:
This is only one example, but it's kinda damning.
I checked the maps, the one that he says is his looks identical to Thunderbolt's but TB's has 1 extra music file added to it.
Unfortunately, downloaded onto my computer tends to alter the creation date of the .rar file so I can't tell which one was created first. Although, under "Level Info" the other guy has it listed as the map's name + 2012, and TB's only has the map's name.
My thought is Thunderbolt saw this other guy's map and thought he could improve it, but neglected to ask the original mapper. As someone who also edits other's maps, I get the logic... but I'm fairly obsessive on getting permission from the original mapper. Even if I've edited a map already, I won't release it without getting permission from them first. |
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