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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:57 am
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Surely many things that were said here about karkass are true. He's not a teamplayer, he glitches bugs and he can be very annoying with his behaviour and his playstyle. I have never liked or respected him BUT going as far as to "get rid of him" seems too harsh for me. Some kind of warning (e.g. a short ban) so he can  have time to contemplate his demeanor.
Besides, I have noticed some kind of improvement since his methamorphosis to General and it's not about cowish looks.

As for you Crow, I don't think you're the one to talk. I don't play on dU as much as I used to but I remember very well that you were extremely offensive to karkass, I'd say aggressive even.

By the way, this is a thread about karkass/General so if you people wish to talk about possibilites for the staff then create a new one and stop offtoping.
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ATAA0, one of the maps, must be cleared out from server maplist.
Long playing time on small area, a boring, stand-and-shoot unenjoyment, disgusting environment (details? where?) with an unnecessarily strong last skaarj boss, with instadeath blows. Also mind the huge pupaes, whats are bugging into stairs and coloumns.
In the first 15 mins you just stand in the start area and shoot-shoot-shoot...
What skill or knowledge need you here?
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Kryxix wrote (View Post):
ATAA0, one of the maps, must be cleared out from server maplist.
Long playing time on small area, a boring, stand-and-shoot unenjoyment, disgusting environment (details? where?) with an unnecessarily strong last skaarj boss, with instadeath blows. Also mind the huge pupaes, whats are bugging into stairs and coloumns.
In the first 15 mins you just stand in the start area and shoot-shoot-shoot...
What skill or knowledge need you here?
 

Agreed. Awful, boring map. Gives me headaches, too. -.-
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I'm not sure if banning General is really the right choice, seeing as he doesn't really break any rules. Is he rude? Yes. Is his playstyle very selfish? Yes. But he's still not really breaking any rules. Except for that time when he got around the ban, which can never be excused. More should have been done about that. Anyone who gets around a ban should be repeatedly kicked, for longer each time, until they get the message. They would give up eventually. Still, I would like to see General gone, but I don't think there are valid grounds to do so, unless frustrating a good number of regular players - and driving away others - is a good enough reason. There are other players consistently breaking rules who are never kicked.

Thank you to the people who recommended me for staff. I'm not sure how that would be received, as I know there are a number of people here who dislike me. Still, if I'm asked to help, I would be happy to. I was a little too immature when I was made staff many, many years ago, which is why I stepped down.

As for ATAA0, I also vote it gets removed. It causes a ridiculous amount of crashes almost every time it's played. You'll see a whole bunch of players disconnect at once, and quite often, a lot of them don't come back.
Another map I think should be considered is WASTED. That map always drives away many, many players, and takes far too long to play with the players who actually stay for it. I joined late in the map yesterday, and it took so long that they reached the time limit. This was on a Saturday. Usually the server would be busy at this time, but there was barely anyone on because of that map. It should be kept to the Crazy server.

Still, map removal should be talked about in a different topic.
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I'm not sure if banning General is really the right choice, seeing as he doesn't really break any rules. Is he rude? Yes. Is his playstyle very selfish? Yes. But he's still not really breaking any rules. Except for that time when he got around the ban, which can never be excused. More should have been done about that. Anyone who gets around a ban should be repeatedly kicked, for longer each time, until they get the message. They would give up eventually. Still, I would like to see General gone, but I don't think there are valid grounds to do so, unless frustrating a good number of regular players - and driving away others - is a good enough reason. There are other players consistently breaking rules who are never kicked.

Thank you to the people who recommended me for staff. I'm not sure how that would be received, as I know there are a number of people here who dislike me. Still, if I'm asked to help, I would be happy to. I was a little too immature when I was made staff many, many years ago, which is why I stepped down.

As for ATAA0, I also vote it gets removed. It causes a ridiculous amount of crashes almost every time it's played. You'll see a whole bunch of players disconnect at once, and quite often, a lot of them don't come back.
Another map I think should be considered is WASTED. That map always drives away many, many players, and takes far too long to play with the players who actually stay for it. I joined late in the map yesterday, and it took so long that they reached the time limit. This was on a Saturday. Usually the server would be busy at this time, but there was barely anyone on because of that map. It should be kept to the Crazy server.

Still, map removal should be talked about in a different topic.
 

Hot Foot is another map that causes a lot of crashes.
(Okay, I'll stop going offtopic now)
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Isn't that exactly the reason why did topic took so long for being present on the forum by now? This went on for years. People ARE leaving. If this continues the server will be half empty.
Just because he doesn't break the 'rules' doesn't mean he shouldn't be walking around like a total idiot harassing players in a certain way. He is twisting and bending the server gameplay ( As far  I understand the topic reactions to this ) to it's own and players don't want that. Me neither.
Therefore he should be be warned big time or be banned wether if he chooses to  listen or not.  I personally think that would do the most fair justice for all. :Zwinker:
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You're right, really. One of my main concerns that I've expressed several times is about players leaving the server. The game is 17 years old, this year. This mod is a little over a decade in age. The server needs as many regular players as it can get, otherwise it will inevitably end up closing. With other big FPS' coming out, including a new free-to-play UT, and a new one by Cliff Bleszinski, more and more players will start to vanish. So if we can get rid of something that's causing the players to leave, that would be an incredibly positive thing for the server.

Maybe getting rid of one person will bring in others. I know for a fact that there are people who stay away when he's on.
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Ninja_Pirate wrote (View Post):
You're right, really. One of my main concerns that I've expressed several times is about players leaving the server. The game is 17 years old, this year. This mod is a little over a decade in age. The server needs as many regular players as it can get, otherwise it will inevitably end up closing. With other big FPS' coming out, including a new free-to-play UT, and a new one by Cliff Bleszinski, more and more players will start to vanish. on.
 



You and I would be great staff I think. Since we're both elder members and know dU since the beginning. We understand each other perfectly when it comes down to judgement. Only thing is I can only play in the evening due work. So what's happening on broad day light I can't tell. But that's not  up to me to decide.

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So if we can get rid of something that's causing the players to leave, that would be an incredibly positive thing for the server.

Maybe getting rid of one person will bring in others. I know for a fact that there are people who stay away when he's on
 


I totally agree.  Well said.
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I agree ataa0 should be retire from du main server but I have to say that banning general not going work short ban will work or muting prevent him telling players vote his maps he likes and hope that he learns something from this
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Something must be done about General, regardless. From what I saw, after his ban, his first days back, he seemed to be quieter, and not as much present, but from what I can see, he has been "plaguing" the servers now, full-force.
I have to think, will a warning be enough this time around, considering that after his 1 week ban, for the circumventing of the kick vote, seemed to have little effect on him.
I'm not as present as before, for personal reasons, but I've been following up on the forums whenever I can, and he does rub off the wrong way on so many people, and he seems to care for nothing.
He plays as if he's alone, when you're supposed to be a team player.
This said, I suggested to him even, to move many times to challenge small, where he could play his maps over and over again, without bothering people nor being bothered by them.
We can all imagine what was his "response".

As much as I can agree that he does not break the rules upfront, we can all agree that he bends them to his will, so, isn't that just as bad, and shouldn't that be equally punished?
And if we're supposed to make it airtight so he doesn't get leeway with his antics, then we have to consider a whole number of other players that also do the same, and can be considered perhaps, worse than General in some ways.
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Hey guys and girls,

Theres always been a big hate on Karkass since I started playing. I never knew where is started from but people who don’t really know the guy seemed to tag on with the hate. This does not include more senior members which includes Crow, Kyrix… well basically everyone who posted on here.

I am one of the very very few people who considers him a friend, he helps me out, chats to me and even plays maps at my pace. I don’t disagree that there is a lack of teamwork on his part towards everyone. I understand this is a rule too and therefore should be adhered. However, a lot of this would apply to other members as pointed out by a number of you, such as Mister (He is also a nice guy), Unai (funny guy) and others.  Overall the amount of rules which are broken regularly are exponentially increasing as the day’s pass, I feel these should all be addressed in one go.

A number of months ago, following an incident I pointed out there is a need for more staff. This is by no means a reflection of the competence of the current staff as they work hard, but many are now off, starting families or are busy with personal life. The number of staff members that would be online has fallen greatly. Currently Villa is the only one I see often, but he usually is torn between multiple servers as he is a fan of the crazy server too.

In regards to who the new mods would be. I would definitely recommend Kyrxix if he accepts. Just like me he is always non-biased and objective. Thinks things through. He is regularly online and we must all agree that he is very respectable man with a control over what he says and how he behaves.
Secondly I would not mind volunteering myself. As mentioned before I play at times in which no mods or senior members are online, I play the same maps as general and lastly and most importantly I am well acquainted with everyone on the server, so my allegiance (or malice) isn’t towards any particular player(s). I would recommend other members but Kyrxix and Villa are online in between them periods, no point having 2 mods online at the same time and then non later that day. Therefore its only logical to not recommend people that are online at the same time as a current mod or similar time zones/ work shifts. Maybe I'm over thinking it.

In regards to removing maps, please don’t remove hotfoot, highspeed train, boomboombridge or highschool. You will just be punishing those who enjoy them (me) and the guy who made it, general will just end up doing the same with other maps.
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A lot of fond memories on them maps =)

BTW I don’t really see bans working as I’m sure he (or whoever is banned) can circumvent them. Therefore, a more active mod needs to be present.

@Suz hope your doing well. =)

Thanks,
Kingibi
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If I'm wrong about this let me know. This is how I interpreted your post.


I could be totally misunderstanding your point, but as I understand it , you would be totally cool with this ??? *ahem* *ahem* Since they will circumvent it ~~~~~ :

Let's say as example:

I vote maps that take at least  approx 20 players , when there is 3 people online. When I'm about to get kicked because of inappropriate behavior, I simply bypass it,. And when I learn of the news that I am being a very , very unpleasant player you would just let me go on. When I see a moderator online, I just simply disconnect or do something else,  wait till he's gone, then I can go on my obnoxious behavior.

You are totally cool with that?

So when you are online as mod, you do nothing till he gets people to the boiling point, when they are already at it?
Wake up Kingibi, people are at their boiling point!  

Yes, at first I did ask for clarification but after some real life seeing, I do know what the people are talking about.

Just like ninja and many others said, dU is not having his true potential because some people are not behaving.
They are avoiding online presence! Wouldn't be nice to have a full time, full server with happy players all the time?

As I mentioned dU is understaffed ( as recalled in BW's post )  in the first place, it is necessary to have mods also knowing to what is actually going on, on the forum and gameserver!

Edit: 3 if it is certainly on topic, I do vote Kryxix staff as well :Zwinker:
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