2012-03-05 10:20.30 Vontimpur: data
2012-03-05 10:20.36 dU.Data_Destroyer: yes?
2012-03-05 10:20.38 Vontimpur: how u jumpo over this?
2012-03-05 10:20.56 dU.Data_Destroyer: where?
2012-03-05 10:20.58 Vontimpur: dodge jump dont work
2012-03-05 10:21.08 Vontimpur: at the berserk stinger
2012-03-05 10:21.51 dU.Data_Destroyer: front dodge
2012-03-05 10:22.01 Vontimpur: really
2012-03-05 10:22.44 dU.Data_Destroyer: hello hellfire
2012-03-05 10:22.51 {MHM}HellFire`: yo
2012-03-05 10:23.50 Vontimpur: really front dodge?
2012-03-05 10:24.32 Vontimpur: u got it?
2012-03-05 10:24.44 dU.Data_Destroyer: not yet
2012-03-05 10:24.48 Vontimpur: lol
2012-03-05 10:26.41 Vontimpur: where is it?
2012-03-05 10:26.42 dU.Data_Destroyer: move
2012-03-05 10:26.51 Vontimpur: thx :O
2012-03-05 10:27.04 dU.Data_Destroyer: brb
2012-03-05 10:27.14 dU.Data_Destroyer:*Nali: Data_Destroyer is away.....*
2012-03-05 10:31.03 dU.SevenOfNine: back
2012-03-05 10:31.09 dU.SevenOfNine: hey helly
2012-03-05 10:31.13 {MHM}HellFire`: sevii
2012-03-05 10:33.21 Demona: hi !y
2012-03-05 10:33.39 {MHM}HellFire`: hi
2012-03-05 10:33.44 dU.SevenOfNine: hey
2012-03-05 10:34.13 Demona: i´m making a reminder of all the crap not to do in your mh map
2012-03-05 10:34.16 Demona: give me ideas
2012-03-05 10:34.56 {MHM}HellFire`: ?
2012-03-05 10:35.27 Demona: like doors that take 1 minute to open
2012-03-05 10:35.31 Demona: or people who camp outside rooms
2012-03-05 10:35.32 Demona: etc
2012-03-05 10:36.06 {MHM}HellFire`: my map?
2012-03-05 10:36.15 Demona: any map
2012-03-05 10:36.25 {MHM}HellFire`: ah
2012-03-05 10:36.46 Demona: i meant your mh map as "the map one builds"
2012-03-05 10:36.58 {MHM}HellFire`: tiny monsters with lots of health
2012-03-05 10:37.09 Demona: ´_´
2012-03-05 10:37.13 Demona: where is that
2012-03-05 10:37.45 {MHM}HellFire`: u asked what things not to make in a map right
2012-03-05 10:37.52 Demona: sure
2012-03-05 10:38.03 Demona: examples are better though :P
2012-03-05 10:38.26 {MHM}HellFire`: ever lasting respawning monsters?
2012-03-05 10:38.28 Demona: i think i got things like spawnkill and stupid hard difficulty covered well enough
2012-03-05 10:38.35 Demona: nice idea
2012-03-05 10:39.16 {MHM}HellFire`: i still can´t manage to continue on lost paradise
2012-03-05 10:39.24 Demona: bored?
2012-03-05 10:39.28 {MHM}HellFire`: also
2012-03-05 10:39.39 {MHM}HellFire`: and when i do have free time, i dont want to waste it on mapping lol
2012-03-05 10:39.51 {MHM}HellFire`: no ideas though, so useless
2012-03-05 10:40.07 Demona: i think i have enough stuff on my current one
2012-03-05 10:40.20 Demona: but i like a global structure
2012-03-05 10:40.23 Demona: lack*
2012-03-05 10:40.24 {MHM}HellFire`: i need idea´s, give me
2012-03-05 10:40.44 Demona: so there´s stuff but i don´t know how to connect it together :(
2012-03-05 10:40.45 {MHM}HellFire`: i have a cave with a bouner down in lava
2012-03-05 10:40.52 {MHM}HellFire`: that bounces you to the other side
2012-03-05 10:41.00 Vontimpur: lol
2012-03-05 10:41.02 Vontimpur: dont
2012-03-05 10:41.39 {MHM}HellFire`: then a small corridor to a teleport, tepeorts you to a temple with some big curved corrirods
2012-03-05 10:41.42 {MHM}HellFire`: dors*
2012-03-05 10:42.06 Demona: and what´s your issue?
2012-03-05 10:42.12 {MHM}HellFire`: what to do next
2012-03-05 10:42.19 {MHM}HellFire`: i want to make a du friendly map for once
2012-03-05 10:42.31 Demona: seven tests is super du friendly
2012-03-05 10:42.35 Demona: jej likes it a lot
2012-03-05 10:42.36 {MHM}HellFire`: since nobody here is interested maps with bt
2012-03-05 10:42.54 Demona: yours is played more than v2 because it´s easier to farm
2012-03-05 10:42.59 {MHM}HellFire`: i make one trap and all the reactions are ´´oh no´´
2012-03-05 10:43.00 Demona: you end with more points
2012-03-05 10:43.19 Demona: well i played tricky like 3 days ago
2012-03-05 10:43.24 Demona: 6-7 people
2012-03-05 10:43.27 {MHM}HellFire`: i dont see why that is hard
2012-03-05 10:43.29 Demona: all knew how to jump
2012-03-05 10:43.41 Demona: did it quickly enough
2012-03-05 10:43.47 {MHM}HellFire`: all i hear that the map is dark
2012-03-05 10:43.49 {MHM}HellFire`: why not for me
2012-03-05 10:44.07 Demona: your screen unusually light i told you
2012-03-05 10:44.28 Demona: it´s dangerous to try going for extreme settings
2012-03-05 10:44.36 Demona: as it will never work fine for some people
2012-03-05 10:44.37 {MHM}HellFire`: if i make it brighter it looks like theres to much light
2012-03-05 10:44.43 {MHM}HellFire`: for me
2012-03-05 10:45.04 Demona: choose what makes you the happiest :P
2012-03-05 10:45.10 {MHM}HellFire`: been working with zonelight 6 outside i believe and a big sun light
2012-03-05 10:45.15 Oriero: could you lead the way? pls
2012-03-05 10:45.27 Demona: is shooting guys too bright for you?
2012-03-05 10:45.31 {MHM}HellFire`: ye
2012-03-05 10:45.32 Demona: it has very high ambient
2012-03-05 10:45.34 {MHM}HellFire`: thats no lighting
2012-03-05 10:45.45 Oriero: ty
2012-03-05 10:45.47 {MHM}HellFire`: thats to poor imo
2012-03-05 10:45.53 Demona: i think it´s just fine for daylight
2012-03-05 10:45.56 Demona: it works well
2012-03-05 10:46.08 {MHM}HellFire`: it works, but not how i would do
2012-03-05 10:46.13 Demona: i´m not saying bright as taste
2012-03-05 10:46.15 {MHM}HellFire`: i like maps with realistic lighting
2012-03-05 10:46.24 Demona: but bright as it makes it hard to play
2012-03-05 10:46.44 Demona: if you have brighter settings then bright maps should be hard to play for you
2012-03-05 10:47.10 {MHM}HellFire`: i dont have problems playing them
2012-03-05 10:47.27 Demona: you got leet contrast maybe
2012-03-05 10:47.39 {MHM}HellFire`: 26 inch makes it all look cooler probably
2012-03-05 10:47.44 Demona: anyway
2012-03-05 10:48.04 {MHM}HellFire`: ill send the map and let me know how the lighting is, and if u have ideas maybe
2012-03-05 10:48.05 Demona: if you have no problem making it brighter it´s no trouble for you then
2012-03-05 10:48.25 Demona: since it´s not an issue when playing
2012-03-05 10:48.40 {MHM}HellFire`: i know nobody that plays here even looks at the lighting
2012-03-05 10:48.51 {MHM}HellFire`: i just want to do it how i think it looks real
2012-03-05 10:49.13 Demona: i don´t think tricky would have been any worse with 5 or 10 ambient instead of 1
2012-03-05 10:49.32 Demona: dm-zeto has 10
2012-03-05 10:49.37 Demona: or 15 maybe
2012-03-05 10:49.41 Demona: it´s very nice
2012-03-05 10:49.52 {MHM}HellFire`: i just dont like using zonelighting since mostly it looks like theres no lighting
2012-03-05 10:49.54 {MHM}HellFire`: or
2012-03-05 10:50.07 {MHM}HellFire`: u need to make enough light to cover it
2012-03-05 10:50.21 Demona: it´s complementary lighting
2012-03-05 10:50.31 Demona: in my current map i have it set to 8
2012-03-05 10:50.46 {MHM}HellFire`: i have the outside of lost set to 8 also i just saw
2012-03-05 10:50.55 Demona: and the actual lighting is built around that
2012-03-05 10:51.16 Demona: outdoors i set brightness to 20-40
2012-03-05 10:51.24 Demona: 40 for broad daylight
2012-03-05 10:51.39 Demona: 20 for sunset and stuff
2012-03-05 10:53.04 Demona: anyway if you aim for dU friendly stuff
2012-03-05 10:53.15 Demona: just having corridors is fine you know
2012-03-05 10:53.49 {MHM}HellFire`: i know that ye
2012-03-05 10:53.56 {MHM}HellFire`: if it has monsters its du friendly
2012-03-05 10:53.58 Demona: that wouldn´t satisfy me as the mapper but if you don´t care...
2012-03-05 10:54.15 {MHM}HellFire`: its not just corridor
2012-03-05 10:54.20 {MHM}HellFire`: has some trim
2012-03-05 10:54.32 {MHM}HellFire`: not like i make empty corridors
2012-03-05 10:54.38 Demona: sure
2012-03-05 10:54.40 Demona: i mean
2012-03-05 10:54.51 karkass: not the cows u´ve been warned
2012-03-05 10:54.51 Demona: one thing mh maps like for example
2012-03-05 10:54.55 Demona: z axis
2012-03-05 10:55.08 Demona: have some in your maps?
2012-03-05 10:55.15 Demona: z axis makes everything better
2012-03-05 10:55.27 Demona: stairs, slopes, bridges over your head
2012-03-05 10:55.32 {MHM}HellFire`: ye
2012-03-05 10:55.42 {MHM}HellFire`: i never really tried making stuff like that
2012-03-05 10:55.47 {MHM}HellFire`: or like multiple ways to go
2012-03-05 10:55.48 Demona: you should :)
2012-03-05 10:55.52 {MHM}HellFire`: since itscool
2012-03-05 10:56.04 Demona: do you think it would make you want to map if you did? :P
2012-03-05 10:56.19 {MHM}HellFire`: if i had ideas
2012-03-05 10:56.22 Demona: making a map you want to play is better
2012-03-05 10:56.54 {MHM}HellFire`: it just sucks to play coop
2012-03-05 10:56.58 {MHM}HellFire`: then u realize how much u suck
2012-03-05 10:57.36 Demona: ever tried to copy rooms?
2012-03-05 10:57.40 Demona: to understand how to make them
2012-03-05 10:57.51 {MHM}HellFire`: i often look in maps
2012-03-05 10:57.57 {MHM}HellFire`: just to see how some stuff is made ye
2012-03-05 10:58.03 Demona: that doesn´t help you?
2012-03-05 10:58.10 {MHM}HellFire`: like some weird pilars or curved ceilings
2012-03-05 10:58.18 {MHM}HellFire`: it does
2012-03-05 10:58.21 Demona: :)
2012-03-05 10:58.27 {MHM}HellFire`: i can do it but i need to see how its done
2012-03-05 10:58.46 Oriero: ooops
2012-03-05 10:58.48 Oriero: sorry
2012-03-05 10:58.49 Demona: when i build something i try to have some guidelines
2012-03-05 10:58.52 Demona: like
2012-03-05 10:58.54 Demona: z axis
2012-03-05 10:59.06 Demona: complex rooms where the shape is hard to guess
2012-03-05 10:59.12 Demona: etc
2012-03-05 10:59.30 {MHM}HellFire`: u know shivnath spawnroom
2012-03-05 10:59.36 Demona: lake?
2012-03-05 10:59.38 {MHM}HellFire`: i made that with a screenshot i found
2012-03-05 10:59.53 {MHM}HellFire`: of some other game or fake picture whatever it was
2012-03-05 11:00.09 {MHM}HellFire`: bricks out of the wall and trees on top of the ´´building´´
2012-03-05 11:00.30 Demona: something you see in ancient maps all the time anyway lol
2012-03-05 11:00.46 {MHM}HellFire`: just saying i exactly made it from some picture
2012-03-05 11:01.02 {MHM}HellFire`: if i have an idea, i can map for hours in a row
2012-03-05 11:01.13 Demona: i mean it´s something you could have make without looking at that picture
2012-03-05 11:01.32 {MHM}HellFire`: ye but i need ideas to make something and i never have
2012-03-05 11:01.49 Demona: how do you jump on ice without losing speed?
2012-03-05 11:01.52 Demona: i fail at that
2012-03-05 11:02.24 {MHM}HellFire`: lol
2012-03-05 11:02.34 Demona: what is your secret :(
2012-03-05 11:02.53 {MHM}HellFire`: walk
2012-03-05 11:03.09 Demona: ah i have no walk key
2012-03-05 11:03.28 Demona: this corridor is the best thing in the map lol
2012-03-05 11:06.09 Demona: conveniently placed jet is conveniently placed
2012-03-05 11:07.17 Oriero: omg sry
2012-03-05 11:07.18 karkass: yawn
2012-03-05 11:07.20 Oriero: im a nab
2012-03-05 11:07.23 Oriero: how can i cancel?
2012-03-05 11:07.32 Oriero: tough that the map voting works in ut2004