2012-03-31 03:39.04 Testing:damn
2012-03-31 03:39.10 Demona: should have made the mountains look better than that
2012-03-31 03:39.14 O_Hiena: mapa do cu
2012-03-31 03:39.14 Testing:what big general fault
2012-03-31 03:39.41 Testing:never played this on main neither
2012-03-31 03:40.00 Demona: i don´t get how people can die here
2012-03-31 03:40.07 Testing:ah you can
2012-03-31 03:40.07 Demona: you just have to stay hidden and shoot
2012-03-31 03:40.13 Testing:the capitains
2012-03-31 03:40.22 Demona: even without the captains
2012-03-31 03:40.54 Testing:like in the other day t-rock one of the most noobs almost won t
2012-03-31 03:40.57 Testing:just deemering
2012-03-31 03:41.09 Demona: i remember the guy who made the map
2012-03-31 03:41.11 Demona: saying
2012-03-31 03:41.16 Demona: when he plays offline
2012-03-31 03:41.20 Testing:wasnt you?
2012-03-31 03:41.21 Demona: he has 32 bots or someting
2012-03-31 03:41.32 Demona: and he rushes with flak
2012-03-31 03:41.35 Demona: all the bots rush
2012-03-31 03:41.41 Testing:lol
2012-03-31 03:41.44 Demona: and he was sad people online use sniper instead of rushing
2012-03-31 03:41.45 Testing:bots in mh?
2012-03-31 03:41.47 Demona: what did he expect
2012-03-31 03:41.57 Testing:rush in this map?
2012-03-31 03:41.58 Demona: they just have to shoot they can at least do that
2012-03-31 03:41.59 Testing:rofl
2012-03-31 03:42.06 Testing:can´t see shit
2012-03-31 03:42.15 Testing:rocket flame everywhere
2012-03-31 03:42.18 Demona: :D
2012-03-31 03:42.21 -=]UM[=-Suz:xD
2012-03-31 03:42.23 Testing:maybe with defense
2012-03-31 03:42.28 Demona: brutes][ is original version
2012-03-31 03:42.31 Demona: brutes][+ is mine
2012-03-31 03:42.35 Testing:lol
2012-03-31 03:42.46 Testing:ups
2012-03-31 03:42.52 Demona: don´t take deemer
2012-03-31 03:42.54 -=]UM[=-Suz:lol
2012-03-31 03:43.03 Demona: that´s what starts the game
2012-03-31 03:43.18 Testing:don´t take deemer
2012-03-31 03:43.19 O_Hiena: hum ok...
2012-03-31 03:43.50 Demona: well the trigger is a bit bigger
2012-03-31 03:43.51 Testing:may the spam be with you
2012-03-31 03:44.06 Demona: have i told you that in this map
2012-03-31 03:44.12 Demona: monsters aim for the player with the highest score
2012-03-31 03:44.15 Testing:i played alone
2012-03-31 03:44.23 Testing:?
2012-03-31 03:44.29 Testing:really
2012-03-31 03:44.31 Testing:cool
2012-03-31 03:44.35 Testing:how they do that
2012-03-31 03:44.43 Demona: custom code because the map was buggy otherwise
2012-03-31 03:44.45 Testing:they can see the score lol
2012-03-31 03:44.56 Demona: something like
2012-03-31 03:45.06 Testing:like rush in and then come back and deemerit
2012-03-31 03:45.13 Demona: for each visible player
2012-03-31 03:45.18 Testing:in the past one deemer here maybe 100k
2012-03-31 03:45.23 O_Hiena: smoke
2012-03-31 03:45.25 Demona: if player.score > bestplayer.score
2012-03-31 03:45.31 Demona: bestplayer=player
2012-03-31 03:45.39 Demona: then monster.enemy = bestplayer
2012-03-31 03:45.40 Demona: easy
2012-03-31 03:45.42 Testing:and they have access to that kind of stuff
2012-03-31 03:45.45 Testing:monsters
2012-03-31 03:45.47 Demona: why not?
2012-03-31 03:45.53 Testing:dunno
2012-03-31 03:46.09 Testing:never thought in that
2012-03-31 03:46.13 Demona: you can access the actors list anywhere in the map
2012-03-31 03:46.22 Testing:monsters
2012-03-31 03:46.29 Demona: you can put custom code in metal boxes if you want
2012-03-31 03:46.37 TWINKIE: TOURO
2012-03-31 03:46.39 TWINKIE: !exit
2012-03-31 03:46.45 Testing:lolol
2012-03-31 03:46.47 Demona: well look
2012-03-31 03:46.48 Demona: preventive suicide!
2012-03-31 03:47.01 Demona: jeez
2012-03-31 03:47.02 O_Hiena: ainda bem que akele saiu
2012-03-31 03:47.03 Demona: preventive suicide!
2012-03-31 03:47.07 -=]UM[=-Suz:lol
2012-03-31 03:47.08 Testing:well this is one of the most favorites jej map
2012-03-31 03:47.13 -=]UM[=-Suz:aquele e doido
2012-03-31 03:47.24 Testing:with my laptop it´s not so slow
2012-03-31 03:47.28 Demona: stupid relic
2012-03-31 03:47.28 O_Hiena: nunca me deixa em paz
2012-03-31 03:47.40 Testing:actually can handle well
2012-03-31 03:47.52 Testing:30 frames its ok
2012-03-31 03:47.56 -=]UM[=-Suz:lol
2012-03-31 03:48.00 Demona: rocket in my head
2012-03-31 03:48.01 Testing:with my desktop like 5
2012-03-31 03:48.01 Demona: preventive suicide!
2012-03-31 03:48.22 Testing:ah now 15
2012-03-31 03:48.36 -=]UM[=-Suz:bem, vou indo jovens :P
2012-03-31 03:48.41 -=]UM[=-Suz:bye, take care :P
2012-03-31 03:48.43 O_Hiena: ohhhhhhhhh
2012-03-31 03:48.44 Testing:xau suzy
2012-03-31 03:48.45 Demona: jesus
2012-03-31 03:48.57 -=]UM[=-Suz:doi-me a tola
2012-03-31 03:48.57 Testing:boa noite
2012-03-31 03:49.02 -=]UM[=-Suz:parece que vai explodir lol
2012-03-31 03:49.06 Testing:isso e mau
2012-03-31 03:49.11 -=]UM[=-Suz:muito
2012-03-31 03:49.11 Testing:e este mapa n ajuda
2012-03-31 03:49.12 O_Hiena: adeus dorme bem
2012-03-31 03:49.31 -=]UM[=-Suz:obrigado :) fiquem bem :P *hugs* ^^
2012-03-31 03:49.49 Demona: pff
2012-03-31 03:49.54 NaturalBK: his map never end?
2012-03-31 03:49.58 Testing:lol
2012-03-31 03:49.59 O_Hiena: no
2012-03-31 03:50.05 Demona: when monsters are dead
2012-03-31 03:50.10 NaturalBK: yeah
2012-03-31 03:50.15 NaturalBK: short
2012-03-31 03:50.17 Testing:btw
2012-03-31 03:50.26 Testing:booguie was playing today in um rofl
2012-03-31 03:50.34 Demona: lol
2012-03-31 03:50.35 Testing:in naliweapons server
2012-03-31 03:50.41 Testing:with skaarj skin ffs
2012-03-31 03:50.56 Testing:it´s only gh
2012-03-31 03:51.00 Testing:not g2h anymore
2012-03-31 03:51.20 Demona: anyway
2012-03-31 03:51.38 Demona: see what happens when you shoot a queen from far away
2012-03-31 03:51.38 Testing:this is too boring
2012-03-31 03:51.43 Demona: she teleports
2012-03-31 03:51.47 Testing:depends
2012-03-31 03:51.55 Demona: because you´re too far for her to see you
2012-03-31 03:51.56 Testing:with minigun she starts screaming
2012-03-31 03:52.06 NaturalBK: where is the queen? is see only a little brute
2012-03-31 03:52.11 Testing:lol
2012-03-31 03:52.11 Demona: normally monsters don´t react
2012-03-31 03:52.14 O_Hiena: lolololol
2012-03-31 03:52.18 Demona: but queen reaction is teleporting
2012-03-31 03:52.26 Testing:queen teleport sucks
2012-03-31 03:52.32 Demona: it´s the same in this map
2012-03-31 03:52.39 Demona: it´s too big for monsters to see you
2012-03-31 03:52.41 Testing:without teleport spot shouldnt teleport at all
2012-03-31 03:52.53 Demona: in the original map
2012-03-31 03:52.58 Testing:in any map
2012-03-31 03:53.02 Demona: listen to me
2012-03-31 03:53.08 NaturalBK: but the monster respawn!!
2012-03-31 03:53.18 Demona: in the original map all monsters behind the first brutes
2012-03-31 03:53.18 NaturalBK: i´m listeining
2012-03-31 03:53.22 Demona: are too far to see you
2012-03-31 03:53.25 Demona: and they never shoot
2012-03-31 03:53.30 Testing:hmm
2012-03-31 03:53.33 Testing:here?
2012-03-31 03:53.37 Demona: only the first ones shoot
2012-03-31 03:53.41 Demona: the other ones are too far
2012-03-31 03:53.54 Demona: that´s why i made the thing to attack the best player
2012-03-31 03:53.54 Testing:well they always see you here
2012-03-31 03:54.00 Testing:no matter where they are
2012-03-31 03:54.12 Demona: they´re trying to attack the player even if they don´t see it
2012-03-31 03:54.17 Demona: it´s forced attack
2012-03-31 03:54.23 Testing:cool
2012-03-31 03:54.35 Demona: because there´s no way in the code to make monsters see farther than default
2012-03-31 03:54.39 Testing:hiena dispara o deemer
2012-03-31 03:54.39 Demona: i tried
2012-03-31 03:54.45 Demona: and it´s only c++ code
2012-03-31 03:54.51 Demona: you can´t change it in scripts
2012-03-31 03:55.03 Demona: and so
2012-03-31 03:55.05 Testing:there´s no propertie with that i guess
2012-03-31 03:55.08 Demona: if i stand here
2012-03-31 03:55.23 Demona: monsters that are far away won´t shoot at me if my score is < 0
2012-03-31 03:55.28 Demona: just for fun
2012-03-31 03:55.38 Demona: but monsters that are close enough to see me act normally
2012-03-31 03:55.40 Demona: so they´ll shoot
2012-03-31 03:55.46 Testing:do you know the insta tentacle in jykyo
2012-03-31 03:55.56 Testing:you can shoot far away he doesnt see you
2012-03-31 03:56.10 Testing:he only keeps shooting you if you remain in the same place
2012-03-31 03:56.11 Demona: like all monsters
2012-03-31 03:56.21 Testing:if you move a little to the side
2012-03-31 03:56.28 Testing:he remains triggers but don´t shoot
2012-03-31 03:56.41 NaturalBK: what we have to do?
2012-03-31 03:56.45 Testing:if you remain in the same place he keeps shooting you no matter
2012-03-31 03:56.47 O_Hiena: kill
2012-03-31 03:56.50 Testing:the distance
2012-03-31 03:57.02 Testing:i think here it´s the same
2012-03-31 03:57.03 NaturalBK: how many?
2012-03-31 03:57.07 Demona: i don´t think there´s anything special with his ai
2012-03-31 03:57.08 Testing:they don´t see you because you move
2012-03-31 03:57.12 O_Hiena: 666
2012-03-31 03:57.25 NaturalBK: mmmmmmmok
2012-03-31 03:57.27 Demona: it´s only related to distance
2012-03-31 03:57.48 Demona: in the c++ the enemy check is 5000 units long
2012-03-31 03:57.55 Testing:like here in this map the only show head don´t work neither
2012-03-31 03:58.06 Demona: ?
2012-03-31 03:58.25 Testing:if you show only the head nobody can see you
2012-03-31 03:58.29 Testing:it´s ut
2012-03-31 03:58.51 Demona: mm
2012-03-31 03:58.52 Testing:the same when bottom button in maboroshi :)
2012-03-31 03:59.01 Testing:you only show head
2012-03-31 03:59.06 Testing:so they can´t see you
2012-03-31 03:59.09 Demona: monster dection vector
2012-03-31 03:59.12 Testing:behind wall of course
2012-03-31 03:59.13 Demona: detection*
2012-03-31 03:59.17 Testing:it´s not only monster
2012-03-31 03:59.20 Demona: starts from their eyes
2012-03-31 03:59.26 Testing:i think i can´t see you neither
2012-03-31 03:59.32 Testing:maybe the same team can
2012-03-31 03:59.53 Testing:don´t you remember playing sniper guys shooting from up
2012-03-31 03:59.54 Demona: it´s different again for players
2012-03-31 03:59.58 Testing:and you can´t see them
2012-03-31 04:00.04 Demona: where?
2012-03-31 04:00.20 Testing:you only see the sniper shells flying
2012-03-31 04:00.26 Testing:but you still can kill you
2012-03-31 04:00.33 Testing:someone fire from tower for example
2012-03-31 04:00.46 Testing:i think it´s kindy the same for monsters
2012-03-31 04:00.57 Demona: there are 2 different thins online that work at the same time
2012-03-31 04:01.00 Testing:it´s different but the same
2012-03-31 04:01.10 Demona: one is condition for the ai code to see the target
2012-03-31 04:01.20 Demona: the other one is condition for the server
2012-03-31 04:01.25 Demona: to tell if the player see something
2012-03-31 04:01.32 Demona: it doesn´t work the same way
2012-03-31 04:01.33 NaturalBK: another map?
2012-03-31 04:01.41 Testing:lol
2012-03-31 04:01.43 Demona: in maboroshi for example
2012-03-31 04:01.50 O_Hiena: kill men kill
2012-03-31 04:01.51 Demona: when you´re fighting the titan
2012-03-31 04:01.56 Demona: you can see it disappear
2012-03-31 04:02.01 Demona: until you move again
2012-03-31 04:02.06 NaturalBK: we are 3 against 44444444444444 brute
2012-03-31 04:02.12 Testing:yeah
2012-03-31 04:02.15 Demona: this is because
2012-03-31 04:02.18 Demona: online
2012-03-31 04:02.25 Testing:yes
2012-03-31 04:02.32 Demona: the game will destroy actors out of the players view
2012-03-31 04:02.43 Demona: and if the monster center point is hidden
2012-03-31 04:02.47 Demona: it´s considered not there
2012-03-31 04:03.07 Demona: that´s why you need to jump to see the monster center
2012-03-31 04:03.08 Testing:well still you can shoot him
2012-03-31 04:03.11 Demona: yes
2012-03-31 04:03.20 Testing:like when you don´t see the monsters and shooting ripper
2012-03-31 04:03.26 Testing:but you are hiting him
2012-03-31 04:03.38 Testing:but you see the rippper shots passing by him
2012-03-31 04:03.44 Demona: haha
2012-03-31 04:03.53 Demona: well you see it like this
2012-03-31 04:03.54 Testing:i think that´s only local to you
2012-03-31 04:04.00 Demona: the other players see the blade destroyed
2012-03-31 04:04.00 Testing:the other don´t see it
2012-03-31 04:04.04 Testing:yeag
2012-03-31 04:04.04 NaturalBK: it´s bored
2012-03-31 04:04.14 Demona: naturalbk get str relic
2012-03-31 04:04.17 Demona: and aim for the small brutes
2012-03-31 04:04.23 Testing:vote other map
2012-03-31 04:04.24 Demona: ok hiena has it
2012-03-31 04:04.25 Demona: nvm
2012-03-31 04:04.31 NaturalBK: what?
2012-03-31 04:04.40 Demona: forget what i said
2012-03-31 04:04.41 NaturalBK: nvm?
2012-03-31 04:04.43 Demona: nevermind
2012-03-31 04:04.50 NaturalBK: ok
2012-03-31 04:04.55 Testing:you guys are too slow
2012-03-31 04:04.59 Demona: with str you kill small brutes with 1 shot
2012-03-31 04:05.05 Testing:this map is just keep the mouse button pressed
2012-03-31 04:05.08 NaturalBK: i´m sorry my english is bad
2012-03-31 04:05.11 Demona: np
2012-03-31 04:05.18 NaturalBK: yeah
2012-03-31 04:05.21 Demona: anyway slayer
2012-03-31 04:05.23 Demona: in this map
2012-03-31 04:05.30 Demona: if you go into the spawn bunker
2012-03-31 04:05.32 Demona: at the windows
2012-03-31 04:05.37 Demona: monsters far away can see you
2012-03-31 04:05.43 Demona: and shoot through the windows
2012-03-31 04:05.44 Testing:yes that i noticied
2012-03-31 04:05.48 Demona: that´s custom code
2012-03-31 04:05.51 Testing:even if you onlu show the head
2012-03-31 04:05.53 Testing:they see you
2012-03-31 04:06.00 Demona: otherwise would be impossible
2012-03-31 04:06.05 NaturalBK: yes, but how many? i kill many brute
2012-03-31 04:06.08 Testing:like in this crate
2012-03-31 04:06.18 Demona: naturalBK look the bottom left on the screen
2012-03-31 04:06.20 Testing:look to the monsters left naturalbk
2012-03-31 04:06.23 Demona: Monsters left: 118 (355)
2012-03-31 04:06.28 Testing:355 left lolol
2012-03-31 04:06.32 NaturalBK: ok
2012-03-31 04:06.40 Testing:but it´s better vote
2012-03-31 04:06.42 Demona: i don´t think they saw a captain yet
2012-03-31 04:06.51 Testing:there one there
2012-03-31 04:06.52 NaturalBK: sorry i´m a little noob
2012-03-31 04:07.03 Demona: see no one shoots at me now
2012-03-31 04:07.07 Demona: ok one did
2012-03-31 04:07.18 Testing:only the close ones
2012-03-31 04:07.19 Testing:lol
2012-03-31 04:07.25 Demona: but as soon as my score is 0 or more
2012-03-31 04:07.27 Demona: look
2012-03-31 04:07.27 Testing:natural bk
2012-03-31 04:07.32 Demona: look
2012-03-31 04:07.32 Testing:it´s on the lead
2012-03-31 04:07.45 Testing:lol spam
2012-03-31 04:08.02 Demona: now they want me
2012-03-31 04:08.16 Testing:15 frames seeying the map from above its not bad
2012-03-31 04:08.34 Demona: if the best player is hidden or dead
2012-03-31 04:08.39 Demona: monsters try to find the 2nd best
2012-03-31 04:08.41 Demona: and so on
2012-03-31 04:08.53 Testing:now it´s hiena
2012-03-31 04:09.04 Testing:hiena now monsters aim to you :)
2012-03-31 04:09.14 O_Hiena: good
2012-03-31 04:09.43 Testing:never tried playing this map with 24 players lol
2012-03-31 04:09.54 Demona: 6-7 minutes with big teams
2012-03-31 04:09.56 dU.Commander_ITA: HELLO
2012-03-31 04:09.56 Testing:i think can be fast
2012-03-31 04:10.01 Testing:7 min lol
2012-03-31 04:10.16 Demona: in the original map there are like 1600 brutes i think
2012-03-31 04:10.17 Testing:i see comm enter but i dont see his nick
2012-03-31 04:10.24 Testing:lol is just spam
2012-03-31 04:10.26 Demona: but there are no captains
2012-03-31 04:11.18 Demona: when they´re stuck walking they can´t shoot
2012-03-31 04:11.21 Demona: i don´t really know why
2012-03-31 04:11.31 Testing:monster bug
2012-03-31 04:11.44 Testing:all monsters do that
2012-03-31 04:11.50 Demona: still it´s annoying
2012-03-31 04:12.00 Demona: hahahaha
2012-03-31 04:12.02 Testing:this is an old game
2012-03-31 04:12.04 Demona: captain ball through the window
2012-03-31 04:12.17 Testing:many bugs never will be solved
2012-03-31 04:12.37 NaturalBK: the giant have a istantgib?
2012-03-31 04:12.38 Testing:lol at the captain
2012-03-31 04:13.07 Demona: one night this was played by 2 people
2012-03-31 04:13.09 Demona: noobs
2012-03-31 04:13.14 Demona: and they let the captains overrun the spawn
2012-03-31 04:13.19 Demona: 4 captains on the spawn
2012-03-31 04:13.25 Testing:lol
2012-03-31 04:13.42 Testing:in wasnt the craters in the field
2012-03-31 04:13.50 Testing:i think monsters could all walk here
2012-03-31 04:14.10 Testing:but they got stuck
2012-03-31 04:14.10 Demona: try showall :D
2012-03-31 04:14.26 Testing:pathnodes
2012-03-31 04:14.33 NaturalBK: oh my god this map is like when born a baby
2012-03-31 04:14.34 Testing:lol the spawn points
2012-03-31 04:14.43 Demona: spawnpoints are part of pathing too
2012-03-31 04:15.06 Demona: can´t see shit with showall lol
2012-03-31 04:15.19 Demona: it´s like
2012-03-31 04:15.22 Testing:the lights in sky
2012-03-31 04:15.27 Demona: a swarm of yellow christmas trees
2012-03-31 04:15.41 Testing:there some big lights
2012-03-31 04:15.48 NaturalBK: swarm of yellow christmas three?
2012-03-31 04:15.49 Testing:outside of the map
2012-03-31 04:15.54 Demona: not big just close to she skybox
2012-03-31 04:16.15 Testing:what is this question point
2012-03-31 04:16.24 Demona: zoneinfo
2012-03-31 04:16.45 Demona: normally you don´t need them
2012-03-31 04:16.53 Demona: but it does a lot of things
2012-03-31 04:16.57 Demona: water, gravity
2012-03-31 04:17.00 Demona: ambient light
2012-03-31 04:17.02 Demona: zone name
2012-03-31 04:17.03 Testing:dino heads?
2012-03-31 04:17.07 Demona: like (blue base)
2012-03-31 04:17.19 Testing:inventory spots?
2012-03-31 04:17.24 Demona: i think it´s bird heads :D
2012-03-31 04:17.29 Demona: not too sure though
2012-03-31 04:17.34 Demona: it´s a default sprite
2012-03-31 04:17.35 Testing:it´s on inventory
2012-03-31 04:17.39 Demona: yeah
2012-03-31 04:17.40 NaturalBK: commander etc etc, italian?
2012-03-31 04:18.01 Demona: i don´t know why showall shows these over the items
2012-03-31 04:18.03 Demona: since it´s not in maps
2012-03-31 04:18.19 Demona: normally you see these on lifts
2012-03-31 04:18.24 Demona: liftCenter liftExit
2012-03-31 04:18.28 Demona: for bots and monsters
2012-03-31 04:18.50 Demona: also for transloc and boot jumps
2012-03-31 04:18.53 Demona: or hammer jumps
2012-03-31 04:19.13 Testing:it´s not head see the mknsters with so many spawn points
2012-03-31 04:19.21 Testing:easy
2012-03-31 04:19.27 Demona: yeah
2012-03-31 04:19.43 Testing:why you placed weapons so far aways
2012-03-31 04:19.48 Demona: not me
2012-03-31 04:19.50 Testing:nobody will ever caught
2012-03-31 04:19.52 Testing:lik
2012-03-31 04:19.57 Testing:rofl
2012-03-31 04:19.59 Demona: told you it´s kaal who thought people would rush to get the weapons
2012-03-31 04:20.05 Testing:kaal lol
2012-03-31 04:20.10 NaturalBK: oh god thank you
2012-03-31 04:20.24 Demona: the spawns are him too
2012-03-31 04:20.25 O_Hiena: finally
2012-03-31 04:20.31 Demona: what i changed is lighting, skybox
2012-03-31 04:20.37 Demona: and creature factories
2012-03-31 04:20.44 NaturalBK: normal map plese
2012-03-31 04:20.45 Demona: and custom code
2012-03-31 04:21.10 NaturalBK: no labyrinth, no long, no chucknorrissbrute
2012-03-31 04:21.15 Testing:this is a normal map in du
2012-03-31 04:21.20 Demona: lol chucknorris brute
2012-03-31 04:21.23 O_Hiena: pick one
2012-03-31 04:21.34 Demona: lol
2012-03-31 04:21.36 Testing:lol